Poll: M16 vs AK47
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posted on 2-15-2005 at 12:27 AM Reply With Quote


Yeah. I believe reloading would be more difficult because you are moving your arm more. From holding the front of the gun to the magazine well, that is more distance than let's say for an M-16 or an AK while reloading. But i'd say it looks quite good.



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posted on 2-15-2005 at 09:12 PM Reply With Quote


nah i dont like it M-16 or ak looks better, and might perform better



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posted on 2-15-2005 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote


Actually, jacky I have to correct you. Through further research, i realized that what i thought was right. In a bullpup design, the weapon's whole overall length is the barrel. So the QBZ-95 would have a longer barrel actually. It wouldn't be less accurate because of its barrel length.



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posted on 2-16-2005 at 12:55 AM Reply With Quote


but still the reload just takes up too much movement and u will be off ur sights and stance



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posted on 2-16-2005 at 01:30 AM Reply With Quote


yeah, at least that part is true enough. What's the advantage of having your magazine located so far back? It makes you move your arm more. Yes the barrel increases if you put a gun in bullpup, but its so inconvienient. I'd just stick with a normal assault rifle.

Actually i just viewed several websites about the m16 vs the ak47 issue. Most said that the m16 is the better weapon....

M16:
Pros-It's lighter,
more accurate,
more versatile,
allow numerous modifications to be made
such as mounting various uppers
has simple mecahnics allowing easy cleaning

Cons-The smaller 5.56 ammunition
reliable with the proper maintenance

AK47:
Pros-The AK-47 is a very effective weapon with great power
It has a very high rate of fire
comes at a very reasonable price.
select-fire
simple to operate, clean, and repair
reliable

Cons-Very loud noise
is heavy,
not accurate over 100 yards
any optics require special adapters
Many people don't like the AK safety mechanism

These i copied off of a site. Numerous of other sites said that the M16 was better other than the jamming factors which are fixed in the newer versions. Also, they all say the 5.56 mm ammunition isn't such a big con. The .223 caliber rounds are enough to fell any human, deer, bears, cape buffalo. The M16 has less recoil and is way more accurate. The AK47's advantage is that it is tough and durable and a larger caliber, but does not compare up to today's M16 rifles. However the caliber is still not a great deal because 5.56 mm are enough to effectively kill any human immediately.

"The US switched to 223 caliber rifles during the Vietnam war; the M16 and civilian variants of it are the closest thing there is to a real assault rifle which is also a believable rifle and can hit things at significant distances. In particular, in a gunfight at 500 yards between a guy with an M16 and a guy with an Ak47, the guy with the AK would most often be SOL."
-http://www.ak-47.us/AK-47vsM-16.php

"The early problems with the M16 was the propellant in the US M193 ball ammo used in the 1960s. That has long since changed, and the ammo has improved, along with changes and mods to the weapon itself, the most important a new heavier bullet (SS109) and a different rate of twist in the bore (1-7, 1-9 are most common, with the A1 version having a 1/12. C7s are 1/7"."
-http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,24175.0.html

That guy was in the army and he tested these rifles. The ball ammo was probably what you said at school, michael, about it going through a person instead of dealing more damage, but however, they changed that as seen above. With better bullets and problem solved you can compare the M16 to the AK74 now.

The AK74 uses 5.56 mm, which is the same as the M16. Therefore, they have the same rounds, which eliminates the size of the caliber debate. The AK74 is basically the same.

"Then in 1974 a new type of AK was first seen by Allied Forces in the November military parades in Moscow. The calibre of this was the new 5.45 x 39mm, which was designed to compete with the US 5.56 for accuracy and lethality. The rifle gained popularity in Afghanistan, and again differs slightly from the AKM. The main differences are of course the calibre, an improvement in the bolt, a new muzzle brake, and different stock design."
-http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,24175.0.html

Lol i read something interesting the guy who rambled on and on in like five consecutive essays, said that the M4 comes in 9X19 mm versions too to compete with the MP5. So therefore, the M4's ammunition just owns the AKs.




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posted on 2-16-2005 at 02:31 AM Reply With Quote


LOL, Chinese people aren't stupid you know, if they're not good why would they adapt the Type 95 for the whole army? 101 ask your Lieutenant Colonel Uncle about the gun and see how it compares.

And Fido, the sites you go on are all from the West, if you go to Russian sites, most definitely the AK will own.




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posted on 2-16-2005 at 03:22 AM Reply With Quote


Actually i've been to some russian sites that talk about each individual guns and stuff. although they don't create a comparison chart thing, reading what they say about it looks like they find the m16 and the ak equal.



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posted on 2-17-2005 at 02:46 AM Reply With Quote


Go to some chinese sites now! :D



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5h!t man i having trouble talking to him, im talking in english and cantonese hes speaking mandarin, f***. But im telling my mom to phone him now



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posted on 2-17-2005 at 02:23 PM Reply With Quote


who are you talkin about 101st? lol. you're phoning michael?



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posted on 2-18-2005 at 04:49 AM Reply With Quote


no! my uncle in china



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posted on 2-18-2005 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote


I'll talk to him with my ownage Mandarin skills. :D



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posted on 2-19-2005 at 05:48 AM Reply With Quote


Yea, ok. what did he say? lol. did you ask him what he thought about which is better: AK47 or M16 and how about Army vs Air Force vs Navy? lol. He's been in the military? so he should know.



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