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posted on 2-5-2005 at 12:51 AM
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M16 vs AK47
Here is a battle against 2 famous rifles.
*DONT NOT post about the XM8 owning them both cuz it doesnt, its design is too bulky only ideal for outdoors, i'd rather take a .22 rifle than a
XM8. its garbage*
M-16s are slim, light weight, compact and easy to carry, ideal for close quarter combats, also indoor fire fights. It is accurate, and fires both
sigle and burst shots (auto and single for m4), can be modified, easily.
Disadvantages- Muzzle flashes are way to big can be spotted a mile away. due to its short barrel length M4A1 often have problem about bullets going
everywhere. Breaks to easily. Requires CONSTANT cleaning, or else it jams like the ross rifle.
AK-47- Cheap and easy to operate. Ideal for ANY battlefield. More like a machine gun than a rifle. High destructive power, can shoot through walls and
trees. Doesnt require cleaning, dont jam often. Strong cannot be broken easily.
Disadvantages- Not accurate, ALOT of recoil although it's heavy weight equals it out, but it is still hard to control during automatic fire. muzzle
climb and flashes as well.
Makes a loud noise when switching from saftey to automatic. Enemies can be aware of ur presence
Put all aspects of the battlefield into these rifles and tell me which one do u think proves to be more reliable. (note some advantages such as
accuracy applies to some situations like a big open field or else it is useless)
Ak info - http://world.guns.ru/assault/as01-e.htm
M16-A2 info- http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm
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posted on 2-5-2005 at 04:13 AM
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I saw the episode on AK47 vs. M16 on Discovery Channel, and I guess it was a tie, but in my opinion AK clearly the more versatile gun. Also later
models of AKs fixes the problems of recoil, accuracy, and noise and improves upon the current features such as no jamming and easy clean and fix. Not
that the M16 is a bad gun but you can get like 10 AK47s for one M16, so the AK takes the price advantage.
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posted on 2-5-2005 at 04:23 AM
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yea but M-16 is proven to be realible too. It can be easily modded for any purpose example silencers and M203 gernades. In discovery channel they are
testing M-16, but now they have M-16 A3 which is improved. Also AK's recoil is still uncntrollable
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posted on 2-7-2005 at 02:18 AM
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AK-74 and AKM and AKS has greatly improved on the recoil and compacted the size. And AKs are strong made of wood, and can attach bayonets and I think
the later models has grenade addons as well.
M-16 they say it jams alot and not easily cleaned, and doesn't work very well in very humid condictions, like jungles, or desert conditions.
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posted on 2-7-2005 at 06:16 AM
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Discovery channel says M-16 jams alot because they arent issuing the actual cartrige and the bullets so that caused the jam, in later models it can
with stand alot of dust and sand. then if u say u like AK bcuz it doesnt jam, then y did u vote for mp5?? All m-16s and m-4s can attatch bayonets, it
is very easy to clean, i cleaned one straight forward stuff.
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posted on 2-7-2005 at 04:40 PM
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I think the M-16 isn't at all that compact and certainly does not have a short barrel length. Actually out of its 1009 mm overall length, 509 mm is
barrel. but were you talking about the M-16 or the M4A1 cause that obviously creates a difference. The M-16 has half its length dedicated to
barrel.
I would go for the M-16 because of it is easy to mod and lol...looks way better. However, it is more expensive but it is more accurate. Multipurpose
launchers are often attached to M-16s as well as laser aimers, scopes and of course the bayonets. The M-16 is reliable also.
Also, actually I researched some bit and i found out that all initial flaws of the original versions have been bugged out and is one of the best
assault rifles in the world presently.
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posted on 2-8-2005 at 12:27 AM
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yea there we go michael u got pwnt
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posted on 2-9-2005 at 01:47 PM
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did anyone mention that an AK can't hit a van at 100yrds with a whole mag on auto?
(that is a white van average size ford or something, an AK47 and one mag of ammo at 100yrds..)
not a sratch on it!
unless of course its on AA. in which case its just as good as the M16A1 but hay this is real life!
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posted on 2-9-2005 at 11:56 PM
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mhow many meters in 100 yards. , wt wind dierction, wt stance, wt cartridge, wt type of ak, wt type of person is firing it???
well i can hit a target 500m away with a lee enfield, i bet ak can do it too
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posted on 2-10-2005 at 02:03 AM
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Lol. Lee enfield? lol. Those crappy .22s? haha. That's hilarious. But I do think if you can do that, an Ak-47 could. I don't think 100 yrds is that
much at all.
100 yrds is 91.44 meters.
If an Lee Enfield could hit a target at a 500 meters distance, I'm sure an Ak-47 would. But through some research I found out that the Kalashnikov
has an effective range of 400 meters. Which would defineltly prove that a 100 yrd target would be chewed to bits.
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posted on 2-10-2005 at 03:46 AM
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....steven im not in cadets... so i dont fire .22 version of lee enfield....i fire Lee Enfield No. 4 MK1 not those crappy modified version of lee
enfields
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl04-e.htm
and also bolt action rifles have way longer range than assault rifles
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posted on 2-10-2005 at 04:50 AM
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Oh. Not in Cadets eh? Lol. Who the hell are you then?
Anyways, like I was saying, the Ak-47 would chew apart its target 100 yards away.
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posted on 2-10-2005 at 05:09 AM
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yea im mr mysterious.
yea first 5 bullets, its recoil is hard to control. but it will not rip up a target, it will shoot the target to dust
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posted on 2-10-2005 at 11:34 PM
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Lol. That's better then. Actually, the target was a van so it would explode if you shoot in the right place.
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posted on 2-11-2005 at 12:34 AM
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Cars never or very rarely explode when you fire at them. It's only in movies and GTA3 that they blow up.
AK-74 Assault rifle
Developed: 1974
Caliber: 5.45mm
Cartridge: 5.45x39
Magazine capacity: 30
Loaded weight: 3,600g
Killing range: 1,350m
1000 yards and has a rate of fire of 600rpm
Grenade Launcher
Foldable Butt, Extended Barrel, Muzzle Suppressor
AKM weighs 1kg less than AK47
The folding-stock model can reduce its length from 868 to 699 millimeters.
Stats for AKS-74
Cartridge: 5.45 x 39 mm Operation: gas, selective fire
Locking: rotating bolt Feed: 30-round plastic box magazine
Weight: 3.3 kg unloaded; 3.9 kg loaded Length: 690 mm with butt folded
Barrel: 415 mm Rifling: 4 grooves, rh, 1 turn in 196 mm
Sights: fore, post; rear, U-notch Muzzle velocity: 900 m/s
Rate of fire: cyclic, 600-650 rds/min Effective range: ----
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M-16
Caliber 5.56x45mm (.223 Remington), M193 5.56x45mm NATO / M855
Action gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length 986 mm 1006 mm
Barrel length 508 mm 508 mm
Weight, empty / loaded w. 30 rounds 2.89 kg / 3.6 kg 3.77 kg / 4.47 kg
Magazine capacity 20 or 30 rounds standard
Rate of fire, cyclic 650 - 750 rounds per minute 800 rounds per minute
Muzzle velocity 945 m/s 975 m/s
Maximum effective range 460 meters 550 meters
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posted on 2-11-2005 at 01:20 AM
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cars never explode when u shoot it, watch mythbusters on discovery channel. I would go for M-16, but if it is jungle warfare i would go for Ak. AK can
definetly rip up a target but i dont think u can really hit a target with auto matic burst, u'll end up shooting nothing and with muzzle flashes
blinding ur eyes and making ur self a very vulnerable target
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posted on 2-11-2005 at 01:46 AM
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If you're going for marksmanship of course it would semi-auto. One shot.
My bad, I always thought a car would explode, but someone told me not so before.
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posted on 2-11-2005 at 04:40 AM
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lol car cant explode
but if u are doing marksmanship id rather go with the M-16 because of its better sights and accuracy
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posted on 2-11-2005 at 06:49 PM
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What's the difference between a Canadian C-7 and the American M-16? Which one is better and why?
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posted on 2-12-2005 at 03:37 PM
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Ha Fido, once again posting inaccurate facts about cars exploding. And C-7 is better. Just cause I live in Canada. 
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posted on 2-12-2005 at 04:37 PM
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Yo I just forgot that cars don't explode like that. I was told that like ages ago. It's not that I don't know that it's that I forgot.
No about the C-7 seriously. Did they mod the M-16 at all for Canadian forces or did they leave it the same.
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posted on 2-12-2005 at 07:59 PM
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C-7 fixed alot of problems the M-16 has. My captain told me that if u bash with the C-7 it wont break like the M-16. And instead of iron sights most
C-7s are already equiped with a scope, which i hate
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Well Fido I guess you should have done your research before talking then, just like with the SOF in Iraq thing. 
Know what gun this is? I think this owns all, and it's very good looking too!
Anyways so who won? AK47 or M-16?
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posted on 2-14-2005 at 03:42 AM
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Neither. They both own. Done my research for what? The car thing? I knew that, I just had to forget. Dude I was told that before ages before I even
knew you Michael. I forgot. Or is it research for the C-7? Well, I was asking a question, not giving answers, so why should i research.
Yeah that's some Chinese gun, like QBZ-95. Yeah that's it. That one. But that owns nothing but air. Lol. It is good looking but doesn't mean it
owns.
Same caliber as M-16, same magazine capacity as M-16 and AK.
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posted on 2-14-2005 at 09:06 PM
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the chinese gun isnt that good, although bullpup configuration can increace accuracy but barrel is too short taht means low muzzle velocity. Also if u
want to shoot this proned, its hard to hit the same groupings again because u need to move both elbows inorder to reload which will mess up ur
position and sights
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